Seat fixing route

Toilet Seat Top vs Bottom Fixing: Can the Fasteners Be Reached?

A bottom-fixing seat is tightened from under the pan; a top-fixing seat is tightened from above. On back-to-wall and concealed-fixing pans, makers note that the underside can be out of reach, so the fixing route is part of the seat specification.

Illustration of a toilet seat from above with its two rear fixing points and a question mark

Quick reference

Before you order seats

Bottom fixing
Nuts tightened under the pan
Top fixing
Tightened from above
No access below
Choose a top-fix seat
Hole spacing
Center to center of pan holes
Soft close, quick release
Hinge features, not fixing
“Fits all”
A maker’s claim to check
Illustration of two seat fixings in section: an open underside reached by a spanner, and an enclosed pan with no access below

Overview

Why the fixing route matters on modern pans

FIX-A-TAP describes a bottom-fixing seat as one whose two bolts drop through the pan holes and are tightened from underneath. If those nuts cannot be reached, it advises choosing a top-fixing seat.

Some modern pans make the underside hard to reach. FIX-A-TAP notes that concealed or blind fixing systems restrict access for bottom-fixing screws, and Croydex offers its top-fix option for back-to-wall pans with no access below.

What this guide covers

  • Top and bottom fixing defined
  • How a top-fix installation works
  • The parts in a seat fixing kit
  • The two routes compared
  • Hinge features that are separate from fixing
  • Hole spacing, access and tightening
  • What “fits all” claims do and do not show

Dimensions on this page belong to the named seats and kits. The standard pan dimensions in EN 33 or North American standards were not accessible and are not quoted.

From pan to seat

What are top fixing and bottom fixing?

The difference is where the fastener is tightened. In bottom fixing, bolts pass through the pan holes and nuts are tightened from below. In top fixing, the seat is secured through the same holes but tightened from above.

Makers offer both routes, sometimes for the same seat. Armitage Shanks lists its Contour 21 seat with top-fixing and bottom-fixing hinges as separate versions. TOTO sells one seat with anchors tightened from above and another with plastic nuts tightened underneath.

Some ranges mount entirely from the top. Kohler states that its ReadyLatch seats mount from the top of the bowl with a household screwdriver, and Bemis describes its Top-Tite STA-TITE system as installing from the top.

TermWhat it means
Bottom fixingBolts through the pan holes, nuts tightened from under the pan.
Top fixingFasteners tightened from above, for example into a plug, anchor or blind nut in the pan hole.
Blind fixingA fixing that holds without access to the underside of the pan.
Hole spacingThe distance between the centers of the two pan holes.
Convertible seatA seat sold with, or for use with, both fixing routes.

How does a top-fix installation work?

Diagram comparing bottom fixing, tightened from below, with top fixing, tightened from above into an anchor

In Croydex’s top-fix route, rubber plugs go into the pan holes and the bolt is then screwed in from above and fully tightened. TOTO’s SS124 follows the same pattern with anchors, washers and screws tightened from above. A sequence built from these documents is:

  1. Measure the hole spacing and check that the seat’s range covers it.
  2. Insert the anchors or plugs into the pan holes.
  3. Place the hinge brackets over the holes.
  4. Insert the bolts or screws from above.
  5. Tighten them without overtightening.
  6. Fit the bracket or hinge covers.

Not every blind fixing uses a rubber plug. FIX-A-TAP’s blind fixing kit uses paddle nuts: each is pushed through the hole, its paddles are realigned below, a collar is pushed flush and the paddles are snapped off before the bolt goes in from above.

Which parts make up a seat fixing?

Illustration of a seat fixing kit laid out: hinge block, bolt, anchor plug, nut, washer and cover

The parts differ by route and by maker. The examples below come from named installation guides.

PartRole and example
Hinge or bracketJoins the seat to the fixing; quick-release and soft-close mechanisms sit here.
Bolt or screwPasses through the pan hole; FIX-A-TAP’s kit uses M6 × 50 mm bolts.
Anchor, plug or blind nutGrips the pan hole for top fixing; TOTO uses anchors, FIX-A-TAP paddle nuts.
NutTightened under the pan for bottom fixing; TOTO’s oval seat uses plastic nuts.
Washers and gasketsKohler’s Quiet-Close seats use a metal washer and a gasket on each bolt.
Covers and bumpersHinge covers hide the hardware; bumpers under the seat rest on the bowl.

The M6 × 50 mm figure belongs to that FIX-A-TAP kit only. No fetched source gave a general pan hole diameter for anchors.

Top, bottom or convertible: which suits the pan?

Illustration of a close-coupled toilet with an open underside beside a back-to-wall pan fixed from above

The deciding question is access. The comparison below uses the makers’ own descriptions; no source compared the strength or life of the two routes.

RouteWhat the sources saySuits
Bottom fixingNuts are tightened from under the pan; Croydex describes it as the faster installation.Pans with open access to the underside of the holes.
Top fixingNo access under the pan is needed, according to Croydex.Back-to-wall and concealed-fixing pans with no access below.
ConvertibleFIX-A-TAP’s Econo seat is bottom-fixing but converts to top fixing with a separate kit; Croydex’s Constance Flexi-Fix offers both.Stock seats for mixed or unknown pans.
Seats for inaccessible fixingsArmitage Shanks describes Bakasan and Saturn seats for back-to-wall WCs where standard pillars are inaccessible.Pans already installed with no access below.

Concealed-trap pans can change the route even for special seats. Bemis states that its bidet seats on such toilets need an alternative top-mounting kit instead of the standard mounting.

Which seat features are separate from the fixing?

Illustration of soft closing, quick release and hinge adjustment on toilet seats

Soft close, quick release and hinge adjustment are hinge features. The Bemis Linden seat, for example, combines top fixing with a slow-closing hinge and an adjustable hinge, so a feature list does not tell you the fixing route.

Soft close

Kohler places Quiet-Close dampers inside the hinge to stop the seat slamming. Bemis calls its version Whisper-Close.

Quick release

Geberit says its quick-release seats come off and go back in a single motion for cleaning. On Kohler Quiet-Close seats the mounting hardware stays on the bowl when the seat is pulled forward.

Release by button or turn

Croydex’s quick-release seat lifts off after a button is pressed and held, and Kohler’s ReadyLatch releases with a quarter turn.

Hinge adjustment

Bemis’s Precision Seat Fit hinge adjusts front to back. Armitage Shanks states that its Bakasan and Saturn fixings adjust between 15 and 18 cm nominal centers.

Bumpers

Kohler’s Grip-Tight bumpers grip the bowl to reduce shifting.

  • Fixing route: top, bottom or convertible
  • Closing: standard or soft close
  • Removal: fixed or quick release
  • Adjustment range of the hinge

What decides whether a seat fits and can be tightened?

Illustration of hole spacing on a toilet seat, a magnifier over the rim hole and a crack mark

Four checks come from the named makers’ own documents. None of them is a universal dimension.

Hole spacing

Bemis tells buyers to measure between the centers of the mounting holes and gives 5½ in. as its North American standard. FIX-A-TAP’s Econo seat suits holes 145–175 mm apart.

Access under the pan

If the nuts under the pan cannot be reached, FIX-A-TAP recommends a top-fixing seat.

Closed-back and concealed designs

Geberit notes that designer WCs with a closed exterior are themselves fastened from below or through the seat holes. That concerns fixing the pan, but it shows the seat holes may serve more than the seat.

Tightening

TOTO warns that overtightening the SS124 screw will damage the hinge. Crane’s toilet installation instructions warn that vitreous china chips and cracks if the bowl or tank nuts are overtightened. Neither gives a torque value.

BSI’s abstract of BS EN 33:2019 says the standard covers WC pan connecting dimensions and an angle meant to keep the seat and lid stable when raised. Its hole dimensions were not accessible, so this page does not quote them.

What do “fits all” and “universal” claims show?

Illustration of round and elongated bowl outlines beside a product tag and a question mark

Some seat marketing promises broad fit. The statements below show how narrow those promises can be.

ClaimWhat it actually covers
Bemis says its Linden seat fits all manufacturers’ round bowls.Round bowls only; its own measuring guide says its seats fit “most” bowls.
Bemis announced a “Universal Fit” seat.The adjustable hinge covers round and elongated bowl shapes; the release lists no other limits or data.
TOTO says its SS124 fits any toilet.It is specially designed for TOTO’s WASHLET+ toilets; no compatibility list is given.
Spare hinges are sold for seats.Duravit ties its spare hinge set to one specific seat number.
Ideal Standard offers a seat lookup.Ideal Standard links a seat finder from its site; its contents could not be checked.

How should a buyer specify replacement or project seats?

Illustration of a seat drawing sheet beside a ticked checklist

These steps apply the facts above to a hotel or project order. They are procurement guidance, not installation instructions.

  1. Identify the pan. Record the pan model, or photograph and measure it if the model is unknown.
  2. Check access. Confirm whether the underside of the seat holes can be reached after installation.
  3. Measure the holes. Record the spacing between hole centers.
  4. Choose the route. Specify top, bottom or convertible fixing from the access check.
  5. Name the seat. Record the seat model and its stated hole-spacing range.
  6. List hinge features. Specify soft close, quick release and adjustment separately from the fixing.
  7. Order matching spares. Tie spare hinges and fixing kits to the seat model number.

When the pan model is unknown

Measure between the centers of the holes and check the underside for access. A top-fix or convertible seat avoids relying on nuts that may not be reachable, but its stated spacing range still has to cover the measured holes.

What should you send and ask before a quotation?

Illustration of a drawing sheet, a message bubble, a hinge block and a bolt

A complete request lets the supplier match the seat to the pan and the access on site. Each question maps to a point earlier in this guide.

QuestionWhy it matters
Which seat model is offered?Fit, hinge and spares are model-specific.
Is it top, bottom or convertible fixing?The route must match the access under the pan.
What hole spacing does it cover?Stated ranges differ between seats.
Which hinge features are included?Soft close and quick release are separate from fixing.
What does the fixing kit contain?Anchors, blind nuts and bolts vary by maker.
Which spare parts are tied to it?Replacement hinges are sold for specific seats.

Include with your request

  • Pan model or photographs of the pan
  • Hole spacing, center to center
  • Access to the underside of the holes
  • Bowl shape: round or elongated
  • Required hinge features and quantity

WNS Global confirms any offered seat, fixing kit and commercial terms separately in writing. This guide does not state that WNS Global supplies, stocks or matches any brand named above.

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FAQ

Seat fixing: questions buyers ask

Short answers, each tied to the evidence in the guide.

What is a bottom-fixing toilet seat?

One whose bolts drop through the pan holes and are tightened with nuts from underneath the pan.

When should a top-fixing seat be used?

When the nuts under the pan cannot be reached, as can happen on back-to-wall or concealed-fixing pans.

Can a bottom-fixing seat be converted to top fixing?

Some can. FIX-A-TAP’s Econo seat converts with its separate blind fixing kit; check the named seat.

How is hole spacing measured?

Between the centers of the two mounting holes in the pan.

Is there one standard hole spacing?

Not one we could verify. Bemis gives 5½ in. for North America, while FIX-A-TAP’s Econo seat covers 145–175 mm.

Does soft close decide the fixing route?

No. Soft close is a hinge feature; the same seat may be top- or bottom-fixing.

What does quick release do?

It lets the seat and lid come off for cleaning; on Kohler Quiet-Close seats the mounting hardware stays on the bowl.

Can seat fixings be overtightened?

Yes. TOTO warns that overtightening damages the SS124 hinge, and Crane’s toilet installation instructions warn that vitreous china can chip or crack if the bowl or tank nuts are overtightened.

Does a “fits all” seat fit every pan?

Not necessarily. Bemis’s claim covers round bowls only, and TOTO’s “any toilet” seat is designed for its own WASHLET+ models.

Are replacement hinges interchangeable?

Not by default. Duravit sells its spare hinge set for one specific seat number.

Illustration of a toilet seat from above with a tick

Summary

Match the seat to the access

The fixing route follows from whether the underside of the pan can be reached. Hole spacing, hinge features and spares belong to the named seat, and broad fit claims need checking against the actual pan.

Key points

  • Check access under the pan first.
  • Measure hole spacing center to center.
  • Specify top, bottom or convertible fixing.
  • List hinge features separately.
  • Tie spares to the seat model.
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